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In the second segment "By Any Means Necessary" is joined by Director Colin Hovde and Actor Marquis D. Gibson to talk about their new show THE RAID at Theater Alliance in Washington D.C. Idris Goodwin's THE RAID is a fabulation of a debate between white abolitionist John Brown and former slave, orator and Black abolitionist Frederick Douglass. The group talk about the show's urgent debate around how oppressed communities can seek freedom, how ally's can support movement building efforts, and how John Brown and Fredrick Douglass;s legacy impact the current political and social moment in America.