Andy Ricker on the Birth of Pok Pok

Published: May 12, 2017, 1 a.m.

My guest on Special Sauce both this week and next is chef-restaurateur Andy Ricker, whose Pok Pok restaurants in Portland, Oregon, and in Brooklyn introduced me to the joys of Northern Thai food. \xa0 We delve into his hippie roots growing up in rural Vermont, his varied professional background ranging from working in low- and high-end restaurants\xa0to playing in\xa0several bands\xa0to house painting, and how his extensive travels helped transform his perspective of cooking from a way to get by\xa0into a passion. \xa0 When it\xa0opened, Ricker didn't call Pok Pok a Thai restaurant for a variety of reasons. I'll leave you here with just one of them: He didn't want people saying, "You're a white dude. How dare you claim tradition and authenticity." For the rest of them, you're just going to have to listen to both this week's episode and next week's, as well, when Andy and I take a deeper dive into the issues of authenticity and cultural appropriation. Don't worry. It will be time well spent.