Episode 388: The Death of DevOps, with Andrew Clay Shafer

Published: Nov. 25, 2022, 6:30 a.m.

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In case you haven\'t heard, DevOps is dead. Again. To discuss its demise, Cot\\xe9 talks with Andrew Clay Shafer. They talk about a lot more: Andrew\'s new company, working with executives, sociotechnical systems, Andrew\'s recent SREcon talk in Amsterdam, and more.

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You can also watch the live recording of this episoded, unedited! It has a discussion of Cot\\xe9\'s podcast making recommendations at the start.

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Check out Andrew and friend\'s new company, Ergonautic, and, find him in Twitter as @littleidea.

Special Guest: Andrew Clay Shafer.

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