Episode 257: Oops I didn't negotiate and really another raise question

Published: April 19, 2021, 7 p.m.

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In this episode, Dave and Jamison answer these questions:

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    I\\u2019m currently in my first job as a software engineer. Before working full time, I worked at the company as an intern, and during the last few weeks of my internship the engineering manager asked \\u201c\\u201cWe want to bring you on full time. What are your salary expectations?\\u201d\\u201d Naive me, not wanting to cause any trouble, responded with a very moderate number. They give an offer that was 10% less, but with \\u201c\\u201creally good benefits,\\u201d\\u201d so I accepted.

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    Just over one year later, I feel like I\\u2019ve proven my value to be substantially more than what I asked for, and I know I\\u2019m making 10-30% less than my peers. A couple weeks ago, I had my salary review, and rather than the management being open to negotiation (which is what I had expected going in) they just told me \\u201c\\u201cYou\\u2019ll be making 4% more this year.\\u201d\\u201d

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    After the meeting, I mentioned to my manager that I felt that the raise wasn\\u2019t representative of the value that I would be giving the company. He responded that they pay \\u201c\\u201cWithin expected ranges for my job title and experience.\\u201d\\u201d I was a little hurt by this, because I want to be paid based on the value that I provide, not based on my title or experience. I don\\u2019t think I should quit the job, because I get along well with the team, enjoy my work, and they are paying for my master\\u2019s tuition on the side. What should I do?

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    Hear ye hear ye, Gods of podcasts, I have a question for thees! I think my salary is ok, \\xa360k (UK) and I\\u2019ve brought up the subject of raises a couple of times with my boss (2 years ago and 1 year ago) - both times I was told I\\u2019m doing pretty well but they\\u2019ll look into it. So far no sign of a raise but I\\u2019m not annoyed, I really like my job and the people I work with are great.

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    I\\u2019m now on paternity leave and have taken the time to do some interviewing to see what\\u2019s out there and keep my skills sharp. Turns out I could earn a lot more! Who knew!? I\\u2019m now caught between going back to my boss with these other offers to say \\u201c\\u201cactually no, turns out I\\u2019m not doing great, gimmi more money\\u201d\\u201d or quitting my job for more money but a potentially worse job\\u2026 help! How do I say \\u201c\\u201cmore money please or I leave\\u201d\\u201d but nicely?

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