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"It's work to put together and come up with a diverse panel," co-host Pam Cobb observes about her work in the cybersecurity industry. "And diversity here is not just male and female. It is backgrounds and ways of thinking, and all of the different ways that we think of diversity." Bestselling author and entrepreneur Jane Frankland, whose company Cyber Security Capital focuses on gender inclusion in science, joins the podcast for a discussion about diversity in cybersecurity, particularly recruiting and retaining women. Cobb and Frankland discuss the skills that are needed in the security industry, how professionals can raise awareness about the skills gap, what people can do to get a foot in the door, and the benefits of a more diverse workforce. "I'm obsessional about this," Frankland says, "to be that change agent, and to enable both women coming into it and women already in it so that they can progress through the industry at whatever level that they want to be at." For more security stories, visit SecurityIntelligence.com or follow IBM Security on Twitter and LinkedIn.