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b'Rob Zuber is the CTO of CircleCI, makers of a full-service CI/CD platform. Before that, he co-founded Copious, a social marketplace built around people and their interests, and Yoohoot, a mobile advertising company that was acquired by Appconomy. Join Corey and Rob as they discuss the ins and outs of continuous integration and continuous delivery and touch upon why it\\u2019s hard to scale CI/CD, why many companies end up focusing on what\\u2019s called undifferentiated heavy lifting and why that\\u2019s a bad thing, what keeps AWS awake at night (hint: something to do with money), why at the end of the day, it\\u2019s all about the product, how developer relations is really a marketing endeavor, how CircleCI is a team of engineers solving problems for another team of engineers, why distributed teams are becoming the norm, and more. This Holiday Replay edition of Screaming in the Cloud was originally aired on February 12th, 2020.'