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In Conversation - Episode 04 - "My brother did like to take the heads off some of the puppets!"
b'The discussion gets highly animated as Paul, Martin, Lisa and Andrew explore the varied worlds of cartoons and puppets.\\n\\nFeaturing Paul Chandler, Martin Holmes, Lisa Parker and Andrew Trowbridge.\\n\\nMusic by Dan Tate and Paul Chandler.\\nCover art and editing by Martin Holmes.'