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This is an interview by Radio Okapi with Judith Verweijen and Emery Mudinga following the Rift Valley Forum and the Political Settlements Research Programme (PSRP) panel discussion in Goma on 20 September 2016. The discussion aimed to answer questions surrounding the recent fragmentation of the armed group landscape in the eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo; the effects of armed group presence on local governance; and the influence of local authorities and local conflicts influence on armed mobilization. The panel provided an opportunity to present the research conclusions of the second phase of the RVI Usalama Project launched in 2015. Entitled ‘Governance in Conflict’, this phase examined the relationship between armed groups and local governance in the eastern Congo.