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b'In this episode, we say, "So Long, 2020!" and look ahead to 2021. To do so, host Daniel Raimi talks with two of the smartest energy and environmental thinkers around: Sarah Ladislaw, from the Center for Strategic and International Studies, and Barry Rabe, from the Ford School of Public Policy at the University of Michigan. Ladislaw and Rabe reflect on the crazy year that was 2020\\u2014in particular, by noting which developments in energy and environmental policy likely will stay with us; some of the legacies of the Trump presidency; and what climate policy might look like under a Biden administration, which has laid out ambitious climate goals but likely faces a challenging political landscape.\\n\\nReferences and recommendations:\\n\\n"Trust" by Pete Buttigieg; https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631498770\\n\\n"Theories of Change" podcast; https://www.csis.org/podcasts/theories-change\\n\\n"Power Grab" by Paasha Mahdavi; https://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects/politics-international-relations/political-economy/power-grab-political-survival-through-extractive-resource-nationalization\\n\\n"Carbon Province, Hydro Province" by Douglas Macdonald; https://utorontopress.com/us/carbon-province-hydro-province-4\\n\\n"The Wizard and the Prophet" by Charles C. Mann; https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/220698/the-wizard-and-the-prophet-by-charles-c-mann/'