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The following is a conversation with Refik Anadol. Refik is a media artist and director working in Los Angeles, California. He is a pioneer in a new art form called \\u201cdata art\\u201d, in which images and sound are generated by the intervention of machine learning algorithms with data sets.

In the last week, the National Gallery of Victoria purchased Refik\\u2019s work, \\u2018Quantum Memories\\u2019 for their permanent collection. He has been the recipient of numerous awards, including the Lorenzo il Magnifico Lifetime Achievement Award at the 12th Florence Biennale. He is also a lecturer at UCLA\\u2019s Department of Design Media Arts.

On the podcast Julius and Refik discuss his work, his process and the digital age in general. If you like this conversation review it with five stars on Apple Podcast, follow on Spotify, subscribe on YouTube or follow me on Instagram at Recorded Time Podcast. I hope you enjoy the episode.