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b'In this episode, we are joined by Craig Swann.\\n\\nAn award winning Music Technology Vet and Founder of Looplabs.com, a free online music making community with around 1 Million users, Craig has been living, playing and building on the internet for 27 years - since the Web was B&W.\\n\\nCraig is also event director of SouthStart, an event in Adelaide South Australia November this year. It is a gathering of entrepreneurs, investors, innovators and more. Find out more at http://southstart.co.\\n\\nWe discuss all things start-up, community, robots and more.\\n\\nReal People is a podcast hosted by Jason Dunstone, the founder and managing director of Square Holes. Subscribe to Real People on your favourite podcast player. \\n\\nJason builds on his 25 years of conducting human-centred research, interviewing average and not so average people (rich, poor, old, young, content and vulnerable) to understand what they believe and how they behave.\\n\\nCheck out the Real People website - http://squareholes.com/realpeople\\nConnect with Jason Dunstone on Twitter @jasondunstone - https://twitter.com/jasondunstone?lang=en\\nSend Jason an email - jason@squareholes.com Read more blogs from Jason Dunstone - https://squareholes.com/blog/author/jason/\\nFind out more about Square Holes - http://www.squareholes.com/\\nProduced with Apiro Media - https://www.apiropodcasts.com/'