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Dave DeLeon is a legend and that is the only reason you need to listen to this episode. This is easily the longest interview I've done so far, but it was well worth the time. Dave has had an incredible career in both journalism and politics, and he was kind enough to share many fun stories and thoughtful insights during our conversation. My favorite parts of this interview are when Dave talks about his time in the Arakawa administration, learning about his early career, and the rather candid discussion of current events we have toward the end. Two RAM GADs for the price of one in this episode, so give it a listen and enjoy.