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"I jump into a book\\xa0-\\xa0we take a book into our hands, and I become everybody, everywhere in every era.\\xa0I become Emma Bovary\\xa0-\\xa0it is a very famous expression by Flaubert saying,\\xa0\\u201cI am Emma Bovary, Emma Bovary\\xa0c\\u2019est\\xa0moi.\\u201d\\xa0I become someone else in a different place, in a different time, in a different body, sometimes in a different sex.\\xa0I can even become an alien, a princess, a count. Then I let go of my defenses and I delve\\xa0into my existential struggles but in this transitional space of literature which is so unique because the story of the characters\\xa0is our story"\\xa0

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Episode Description:\\xa0We begin our conversation about the reading experience with\\xa0Merav\\xa0sharing with us her story of growing up in a family of writers. We discuss the factors within us that lead us to read and how it shares certain similarities with the clinical encounter. She considers the use we make of literature to help us make the intolerable more playfully bearable. The work of Jorge\\xa0Semprun\\xa0is discussed with examples given from his memoir\\xa0Literature or Life.\\xa0Merav\\xa0shares with us her sense that the depressive position informs and allows for a more ethical engagement with the literary experience. We close with her reading the poem\\xa0Eating Poetry\\xa0by Mark Strand.\\xa0

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Our Guest:\\xa0Merav\\xa0Roth Ph.D. is a clinical psychologist and a training and supervising psychoanalyst at the Israeli Psychoanalytic Society; She is the head of the psychoanalytic psychotherapy program, Sackler School of Medicine, Tel-Aviv University; and a researcher of psychoanalysis and culture (mainly literature and trauma). She is the former chair of the interdisciplinary Doctoral Program in psychoanalysis and the former founder and chair of the post-graduate Klein studies, both at the psychoanalytic psychotherapy program, Sackler School of Medicine. Together with Joshua Durban, Roth edited and wrote the Preface and introductions to the book\\xa0Melanie Klein \\u2013\\xa0Essential\\xa0Papers II\\xa0and also\\xa0edited Klein\'s\\xa0Psychoanalysis of Children\\xa0and\\xa0Brenman\\xa0Pick\'s\\xa0Authenticity\\xa0in the Psychoanalytic Encounter. Her book\\xa0Reading the Reader \\u2013 a Psychoanalytic Perspective on Literature, was published by Routledge and is translated into Spanish.\\xa0

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Recommended Readings:\\xa0\\xa0

Jorge\\xa0Semprun. Literature or life - Penguin, 1997.\\xa0\\xa0

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Merav\\xa0Roth. A Psychoanalytic Perspective on Reading Literature - Reading the Reader, Routledge, 2020.\\xa0\\xa0

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Merav\\xa0Roth. Mutual Witnessing between a Writer and her Readers in\\xa0Etty\\xa0Hillesum\'s\\xa0Diaries, 1941 -1943 Psychoanalytic Review, 107(6), December 2020\\xa0

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Merav\\xa0Roth (2018) True Love as the Love of Truth, Psychoanalytic Perspectives, 15:2, 186-198.\\xa0

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Merav\\xa0Roth. Transference in the Days of\\xa0Corona(IPA web) -\\xa0\\xa0

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Etti\\xa0Hillessum\'s\\xa0book: An Interrupted Life: Diaries and Letters of\\xa0Etty\\xa0Hillesum\\xa0[1941-43]\\xa0

(a tremendously inspiring diary of a young woman during the Holocaust)\\xa0