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\\u201cFirst, when we started to work online, it was exhausting. Now, I cannot say it is exhausting at the same\\xa0level\\xa0but it is still exhausting.\\xa0You feel very\\xa0tired\\xa0and you miss the in-person contact.\\xa0It has been more than one\\xa0and a half\\xa0years...I think that we will be able to think about the consequences and the impact of working in this way, and in the upcoming years we will have a lot of material.\\u201d\\xa0

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Episode Description:\\xa0We begin\\xa0with a review of our first two podcast conversations\\xa0-\\xa0the first being the inaugural episode and the second\\xa0coming\\xa0one year later at the beginning of the COVID lockdown. Now we\\xa0are able to\\xa0look back at what we hope is the worst of the pandemic and its impact on our lives and on analytic practice. The clinical implications for online and in-person contact will be studied for some time ahead. Virginia discusses her views on the politics of the IPA, the meaning of being the first woman president, and the importance of her being a child analyst.\\xa0We close with an affirmation of her optimism for our field which is seen as more essential than ever.\\xa0

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Our Guest:\\xa0Virginia Ungar M.D, is a Training Analyst at the Buenos Aires Psychoanalytic Association (APdeBA) where she lives and practices.\\xa0She specializes in child and adolescent analysis,\\xa0was the former Chair of the IPA\\u2019s Child and Adolescent Psychoanalysis Committee (COCAP) and of the Committee for Integrated Training.\\xa0Dr. Ungar\\xa0was given the Platinum\\xa0Konex\\xa0Award for Psychoanalysis in 2016.\\xa0

She has just completed her term as the President of the International Psychoanalytic Association, 2017-2021.\\xa0