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b'"What you are describing in the process of reading the book is what I am aspiring to which is a kind of deep emotional dialogue both in the book with the reader, but also in my work with the patient. I am more concerned with the experiential nature of our work and what it means to be with someone and the kinds of experiences that follow from a certain way of being with someone, than a focus on transference, and transference interpretation. Not that I think those aspects of our work are\\xa0 unimportant, but I feel like what is foundational in even making transference interpretation is being tuned into the kind of shared emotional space and process.\\u201d\\xa0

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Episode Description: We begin with my experience of reading Henry\\u2019s new book which included my feeling imbalanced by his emphasis on the here-and-now personal characteristics of the analyst with less attention to the meaning that patients idiosyncratically bring to the analytic relationship. That said, I also felt changed by receiving his openness and vulnerability that he described in his clinical encounters. From there we began a conversation on \'authenticity\' and \'presence\'. We discussed analytic symmetry, intersubjectivity, sincerity, and what it means to \'surrender\' to the analytic moment. Henry presented two distinct cases that demonstrate how he brings his authentic self to challenging clinical moments. We close with his sharing with us some of his personal history that has led him to this way of conceptualizing the work.\\xa0

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Our Guest: Henry Markman, MD is a Training & Supervising Analyst, San Francisco Center for Psychoanalysis (SFCP), and Co-chair of Dialogues in Contemporary Psychoanalysis at SFCP. In 2021 he published the book, Creative Engagement in Psychoanalytic Practice by Routledge. Recent publications include: \\u201cA Pragmatic Approach to Bion\\u2019s Late Work. (JAPA 2015) ; "Presence, Mourning, Beauty: Elements of Analytic Process,\\u201d (JAPA 2017); The Good, the Bad, The Ugly, and the Dead: A Typology of Analytic Fields,\\u201d (fort da 2018); Accompaniment in Jazz and Psychoanalysis,\\u201d (Psychoanalytic Dialogues 2020); \\u201cEmbodied Attunement and Participation" (JAPA 2020), and \\u201cOne-sided Analysis Is No Longer Possible: The Relevance of \\u201cMutual Analysis\\u201d in Our Current World\\u201d. (fort da 2021). Henry\\u2019s interests include modes of therapeutic action, embodied communication, the relevance of music in psychoanalysis, aesthetic experience, the emotional work of the analyst in the clinical encounter, and the development of a therapist. He is currently working on a manuscript entitled Five Uneasy Pieces: Five Psychoanalytic Articles that Changed My Mind. He is in private practice in Berkeley, where he consults and leads study groups.\\xa0

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Recommended Readings:\\xa0

Berenstein, I. (2001) The Link and the Other. International Journal of Psychoanalysis 82: 141-149\\xa0

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Wilfred Bion: Los Angeles Seminars and Supervision. Seminar One. Bion, W., Aguayo, J., Malin, B. Routledge. 2013\\xa0

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Ferenczi, S. The Clinical Diary of Sandor Ferenczi. (J. Dupont, ed.) Harvard University Press. 1998\\xa0

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Malloch, S. & Trevarthen, C. (Eds.). (2009). Musicality: Communicating the Vitality and Interests of Life. In Communicative Musicality. Oxford: Oxford University Press.\\xa0

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Nacht. S. (1962) The Curative Factors in Psycho-Analysis. International Journal of Psycho-analysis 43: 206-211\\xa0

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Winnicott, D.W. (1968) Playing: Its Theoretical Status in the Clinical Situation. International Journal of Psycho-analysis 49: 591-599\\xa0