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Ian starts cussing and then wonders if he can get sued for that.  This dovetails into a very uneducated discussion about libel, slander, and talking bad about others who work for you.  Ian takes his sweet old time trying to explain why he doesn’t like making TV backwards and upside down and Terence attempts to speed him up since he couldn't be talking any slower tonight.  The two discuss when an agenda of a show changes directions mid-stream, when executives fiddle too much, and when they should sit back and trust their initial decisions.  

Ian gets schooled by his associate producer (Hasmik!) when he tries to make a decision under pressure.  He made a decision under pressure and there was almost a mutiny.  

Executive Producers, showrunners, and production company owners -- Terence Michael and Ian Gelfand have produced over 50 television series and 20 feature films between the two of them.  They're also entrepreneurs, with businesses outside of film and tv, from real estate to start-ups.  Ian lives in New York.  Terence lives in Los Angeles.  This podcast was born from a series of neurotic telephone conversations that began after Terence returned from Louisiana,where he's the executive producer of Duck Dynasty, and attempted to prepare Ian to come onboard the next season to direct and showrun. They both realize they're probably the only two people listening.  And that's okay with them.