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A friend of Ian's is negative about his show and that starts to make Ian worry (big surprise).  Terence tells Ian to look in the mirror and tell himself he’s good enough, and dog gone it, people like him.  Ian worries about not worrying enough, which worries him, and then admits he worries so much so others don’t have to.  Continuing to staff their shows, Ian nabs a strong hire in Charlie Van Fleet who both Ian and Terence have worked with on Duck Dynasty.  Shout out to him, as well as writers Marcia Fields and Mike Spear.  

Executive Producers, showrunners, and production company owners -- Terence Michael and Ian Gelfand have produced over 50 television series and 20 feature films between the two of them.  They're also entrepreneurs, with businesses outside of film and tv, from real estate to start-ups.  Ian lives in New York.  Terence lives in Los Angeles.  This podcast was born from a series of neurotic telephone conversations that began after Terence returned from Louisiana,where he's the executive producer of Duck Dynasty, and attempted to prepare Ian to come onboard the next season to direct and showrun. They both realize they're probably the only two people listening.  And that's okay with them.