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After Ian recommends writers Mike Spear and Marcia Fields to Terence's new show; they discuss staffing both their shows with a female focus.  Terence creates his own censor sound when Ian starts comparing the size of their staffs.  Shout out to Kristine Augustyn, who fits both guys' criteria for having a top supervising producer in the field, so they both try to get her.

Executive Producers, showrunners, and production company owners -- Terence Michael and Ian Gelfand have produced over 50 television series and 20 feature films between the two of them.  They're also entrepreneurs, with businesses outside of film and tv, from real estate to start-ups.  Ian lives in New York.  Terence lives in Los Angeles.  This podcast was born from a series of neurotic telephone conversations that began after Terence returned from Louisiana,where he's the executive producer of DuckDynasty, and attempted to prepare Ian to come onboard the next season to direct and showrun. They both realize they're probably the only two people listening.  And that's okay with them.