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Sarah was one of those friends who was always the listening ear, until finally someone mentioned that she should actually get paid for helping people the way she did! Inspired to social work and helping others, Sarah found that shame came up over and over again in her practice with regard to identity, gender, sex, sexuality, and trauma.

Sarah explains where shame tends to come from (often societally influenced), and things get really deep when she starts talking about the differences between guilt and shame.

Our conversation keeps getting deeper as we talk about shame with regard to our identities, especially when it comes to many of our relationships to religion. Spirituality and a relationship to a higher power can still be extremely important, and Sarah talks about how people are able to take the pieces of the lessons we may have learned growing up in the church, and leave the parts that don't serve us behind.

You won't want to miss the rest of this awesome conversation with an incredible human!

Learn more about Sarah at www.SarahBetz.com and follow her on IG: @SarahBetzLCSW !