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Stimson Center senior fellow Emma Ashford and University of Birmingham professor and Cato adjunct scholar Patrick Porter discuss the intensification of the war in Ukraine, Putin\'s nuclear threats, realist perspectives on Russian objectives, and possible US policy responses. 

1. Emma Ashford bio
2. Patrick Porter bio
3. Emma Ashford, \\u201cIn Praise of Lesser Evils,\\u201d Foreign Affairs 101, no. 5 (September/October 2022).
4. Justin Logan, Benjamin H. Friedman, and Patrick Porter, \\u201cWe\\u2019re Not All Ukrainians Now,\\u201d Politico Europe, May 17, 2022.
5. Emma Ashford and Matthew Kroenig, \\u201cHow Should the West Respond to Putin\\u2019s Military Mobilization?\\u201d Foreign Policy, September 23, 2022.
6. Patrick Porter, \\u201cThe Realist Boogeyman,\\u201d The Critic, June 15, 2022.

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