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On this episode of Complicated Conversations we welcome Veronica West, showrunner, writer, creator and executive producer of the Apple TV+ series SURFACE, a twisty psychological thriller that asks the question: what if you woke up one day and didn\\u2019t know your own secrets?

We chatted with Veronica about the creation of Sophie Ellis, the \\u201cinteresting and skeptical and complicated\\u201d lead of this series (played brilliantly by Gugu Mbatha-Raw); how, despite losing her memory, Sophie still has her intuition and a willingness to let it lead her; the different versions of ourselves that we all present to the world and the existential crisis the questions of this series caused for us personally; the idea of who to trust and how people can be more than one thing; the ways a female-driven creative team like the one behind SURFACE  \\u2013 Reese Withersoon, Lauren Neustadter & Hello Sunshine \\u2013 helped to bring this series to life; our mutual obsession with the idea of fate vs. free will; and Veronica\\u2019s own origin story.

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