'28 Summers' & Elin Hilderbrand

Published: Nov. 25, 2020, 9 a.m.

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**Can secrets make a person complicated? We discuss Mallory and Ursula in light of our complicated women criteria. (08:10).

**What\'s Your Damage, Heather? In this book it all revolves around ideas of love and marriage. Does Mallory love Jake? Does Jake love Ursula? We have controversial opinions. (30:15)

**What She Said. We discuss Elin Hilderbrand, the author, creative mind and business woman. (49:30)

**Crystal Ball. Carinn uses inspiration from the Taylor Swift line, "if one thing had been different, would everything be different today?" and imagines alternate futures for Jake and Mallory. (58:25)

**Who won the book? (67:55)

**Takeaways. Carinn and Kate discuss the idea behind "Same Time Next Year" and whether the set-up is ideal, a dream come true or a total cluster waiting to happen. (71:15)

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