Alan Sked is a distinguished Historian and Professor Emeritus at LSE in the department of International History. However, what he will most likely be remembered for in political circles is founding the UK Independence Party. Hear the story of Alan's original involvement with the then Liberal Party, standing as a candidate in Paisley in 1970. He came to believe that the EC were corrupt and anti-democratic, and a liability to the British economy. His founding of the Anti-Federalist League which became renamed UKIP, his scathing thoughts on Nigel Farage and his view he had zero to do with the leave campaign win. His dismay seeing what he founded as a Liberal Eurosceptic party being tainted by far right elements and his personal mission to be a thorn in Nigel's side. Alan and I have a wide ranging chat, however, mostly centred on Brexit. What I found is we agree on so much more than we disagree on.