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The Real Podcast Payoff, with Paul Colligan
b'The podcast world is still enormous and free to enter. However, certain recent changes, including the abundance of celebrity-hosted shows and shows being kept behind paywalls, have podcasters wondering what they should do to draw in and keep an audience. In this episode, Dan Sullivan, Gord Vickman, and guest Paul Colligan discuss current trends and give advice to podcasters to help them figure out what their goals are and how they can reach them.'