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Security is more about more than finding holes and devising patches. For one, once you find those holes and have a patch, you have to make sure everyone not only knows about them, but applies them. We talk about how Pivotal is doing this both inside Pivotal and with our customers, with Molly Crowther. Also, we talk about tactics for getting your developers more security conscious, in a way that both is useful and doesn't spook them off. As always, we also cover some recent news and discuss the merits of dog licks. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast