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b'Perseverance, Transparency, and Breaking the Glass Ceiling.In this episode of The Outspoken Podcast, host Shana Cosgrove talks to Megan Jaffer, CEO of IAI Strategies LLC and host of the Iron Butterfly Podcast. Megan discusses the origins of her desire to get into the intelligence community and how she persevered until she got what she wanted. We hear the importance of Ellen McCarthy, INSA, and the many women along her professional journey that boosted her up. Megan opens up about the Iron Butterfly Podcast, revealing how it started and what her missions are with the show. Lastly, we hear Megan\\u2019s favorite book, her surprising fact, and some bonus advice on how to have a successful marriage with two professionally-driven partners.QUOTES\\u201cWe wanted this to be a podcast where we were telling the real stories of women in intelligence. And it\\u2019s not just about what they do, but it\\u2019s the fascinating stories about who they are as women.\\u201d - Megan Jaffer [28:59]\\u201cPart of the reason that AWIC has been successful is that not everybody grows up in this area, around this community. I\\u2019m one of those people that had no touch points, I didn\\u2019t know anyone.\\u201d - Megan Jaffer [33:36]\\u201cI have always been taught that you have to tell people how you feel when you love them and you appreciate them - and if they\\u2019ve done something well or they\\u2019ve touched your heart in some way. And so, I try to do that in my life. \\u201d - Megan Jaffer [39:59]\\xa0TIMESTAMPS\\xa0[00:04] Intro[01:31] Meeting Megan[04:01] The TIM Collective[08:28] Ellen McCarthy[13:13] Discussing INSA[14:19] Megan\\u2019s Desire to Enter the Intelligence Community[19:12] Where Megan Gets Her Perseverance[25:38] Starting the Iron Butterfly Podcast[33:36] The Importance of Accessibility in the Intelligence Community[36:13] Getting Over Nervousness Around Senior Women[40:51] Dream Sessions[46:02] Advice Given and Advice Received[49:36] Megan\\u2019s Book Recommendation[51:01] Megan\\u2019s Surprising Fact[51:53] Making Marriage Work with Two Professionally-Driven People[56:54] Outro\\xa0\\xa0RESOURCEShttps://www.linkedin.com/pulse/spotlight-diversity-amazing-women-intelligence-alexandra-mccargo/?trk=read_related_article-card_title (Amazing Women of the IC (AWIC))https://commandpurpose.org/ (Command Purpose)https://www.insaonline.org/ (Intelligence and National Security Alliance (INSA))https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellen-mccarthy-0ba3787/ (Ellen McCarthy)https://www.nga.mil/ (National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA))https://nationalsecurity.gmu.edu/chuck-alsup/ (Chuck Alsup)https://www.linkedin.com/in/letitia-long-156aa883 (Letitia Long)https://noblis.org/ (Noblis)https://www.dia.mil/ (Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA))https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawn-meyerriecks-bba7b9/ (Dawn Meyerriecks)https://www.linkedin.com/in/sue-gordon-55ab1738/ (Sue Gordon)https://www.insaonline.org/events/baker/ (William Oliver Baker Award Dinner)https://www.winsmediafest.com/ (Women In National Security Media Festival)https://www.army.mil/article/121984/miss_virginia_hall (Virginia Hall)https://www.amazon.com/Gratitude-Marala-Scott/dp/1449497276 (With Gratitude) by Marala Scotthttps://the.ismaili/ (Shia Ismaili Muslims)\\xa0RELEVANT LINKShttps://www.linkedin.com/in/megan-jaffer-692616181 (Megan Jaffer) on LinkedInhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/iron-butterfly/id1530244949 (Iron Butterfly Podcast)https://nylatechnologysolutions.com/ (Nyla Technology Solutions)I\\u2019d love to hear from you -- your feedback is important to me and I read all of it. If you enjoyed the podcast, I hope you\\u2019ll give us 5 stars. I\\u2019ll be sure to thank you via email. If not, let me know what you think we should do differently. Don\\u2019t forget to hit \\u201csubscribe\\u201d so you\\u2019ll receive notifications about guest interviews and other topics that drop every Tuesday.Live well, Shana'