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How does un-making a flag become art? Join Kinderling Kid, Holiday when she meets Raquel Ormella to explore this question and more! Raquel Ormella is an Australian artist who uses textile, video and drawing to make art about environmental and social issues. Her artworks often resemble protest materials such as flags, banners and slogans. Raquel is particularly concerned about climate change and its effect on young people. In this episode, Raquel shows Holiday how flags can include AND exclude people; that art is about being creative and making yourself happy; and that you can even make art in bed! Listen now to Outside the Lines with Raquel Ormella. For more kid-friendly art tips (from more inspirational artists) download the Kinderling App or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Outside the Lines is a Kinderling co-production with the Queensland Art Gallery and Gallery of Modern Art’s Children’s Art Centre. This production was possible thanks to the generous support of the Neilson Foundation. Produced by Caitlin Gibson Sound Design and Mixby Camilla Hannan Executive Producer: Lorna Clarkson  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.