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In this short fiction piece, a doctor in Iran talks about plagues, old and new, with his grandmother.

Credits: Thank you for listening to Ochenta Stories, this story was written by Ali from @iranian_nomad. Ali is a digital creator, story-teller, traveller, and researcher. You can follow him on Instagram at @iranian_nomad. The grandmother’s part was voiced by Ali’s mom. The Sound Design of the piece was done by Chiara Santella. If you liked the show, leave us a review in whatever language you choose and follow us @ochentapodcasts.

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