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\\nHere is that debate between Gary Francione and Dario Ringach that I talked about
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\\nhttp://www.abolitionistapproach.com/debate-the-use-of-nonhuman-animals-in-biomedical-research-a-moral-justification/
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\\nHere is the video of the debate.  The sound is TERRIBLE someone didn\'t turn off their darn cell phone >:(  But despite that it\'s worth a listen just grin and bear it.  It\'s worth it  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8OMtRiD3oI
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\\nThank you for listening'