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If you\u2019re familiar with my books, blog, and even my line of supplements, Legion, you know I\u2019m all about the science, baby!

Anecdote and experience are useful, of course, but it can be easy to get fooled. There are too many variables at play, and psychological trickery can wreak havoc without us even realizing it.

That\u2019s where science comes into play. It can give us a more objective look to help us spot real trends and pinpoint mechanisms. And I have a lot of respect for researchers and scientists like Dr. Bill Campbell, who I\u2019m excited to bring onto this episode of the podcast.

In case you\u2019re not familiar with Dr. Campbell, he\u2019s a professor of Exercise Science and the Director of the Performance & Physique Enhancement Laboratory at the University of South Florida, who\u2019s also published more than 150 scientific papers.

In other words, Dr. Campbell is busy running studies that test questions with answers we all want to know.

As the author of several books, including the Sports Nutrition: Enhancing Athletic Performance textbook, he also has an inclination for simplifying complex subjects, which proves particularly practical and useful for \u201clifestyle bodybuilders\u201d such as myself and many of you listeners.

In this conversation, Bill and I chat about . . .

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• Specific areas where the scientific literature is lacking
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• How he\u2019s helping athletic people look and feel even better
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• His evidence-based tips for getting from lean to leaner
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• Why you might want to eat more protein (even if you already eat a lot)
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• Diet breaks
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• What he\u2019s currently studying in the lab
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• And more . . .
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So if you want to hear from a real physique scientist lab-dweller who\u2019s truly \u201cin the trenches,\u201d press play and let me know what you think!

5:39 - Where do you think the current literature is light?

15:33 - What are the best strategies for getting lean and staying lean?

24:11 - What are the proposed mechanisms for protein intake?

29:13 - Would you have any recommendations for people wanting to try high protein intake?

40:16- Would the advice of eating as much as you comfortably can apply to cutting, maintaining, and lean bulking?

59:42 - What are some of the other questions that are most on your mind? What data you want to get your hands on?

1:04:38 - Where can people find you and your work?

Mentioned on The Show:

Bill Campbell\u2019s Instagram: www.instagram.com/billcampbellphd/

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