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Celene Hawkins & Izabella Ruffino - Tribal Partnerships, Indigenous Voices, Cutting-Edge Conservation

Published: April 30, 2024, 9:20 p.m.

Celene Hawkins is the Colorado River Tribal Water Partnerships Program Director for the Nature Conservancy, and Izabella Ruffino is the Tribal and Indigenous Engagement Program Manager for the Colorado Chapter of the Nature Conservancy. Both Celene and Izabella use their skills to advance and support tribal-led land and water conservation work throughout the American West.

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Most of Celene\u2019s work is centered around the Colorado River Basin, and she has played an integral role in many cutting-edge water conservation projects that have sought out Tribal voices and Indigenous perspectives to create some of the West\u2019s most effective and equitable solutions to complex water challenges. Perhaps most notably, she worked with the Jicarilla Apache Nation, the New Mexico Interstate Stream Commission, and her colleagues at TNC to create a first-of-its-kind water agreement that was a true win-win for nature and people.

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Izabella\u2019s work builds on TNC\u2019s strong foundation of partnerships with Tribal Nations for land and water issues, and she is also focused on expanding Tribal and Indigenous engagement into all aspects of TNC\u2019s wide-ranging conservation work. Additionally, she is responsible for internal efforts to fortify organizational cultural awareness and humility within TNC\u2019s Colorado Chapter. As you\u2019ll hear, Izabella is doing everything from leading internal educational initiatives to working with wide-ranging stakeholder groups on projects such as determining the best uses for TNC-owned land and preserves.

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In this episode, we dig into the details of many of their specific projects and initiatives, but we also talk more broadly about the importance of seeking out Indigenous perspectives to help guide TNC\u2019s critical conservation work around the world. They both offer plentiful resources\u2013 online courses, books, podcasts, essays, and more\u2013 that will help me (and you, the listener!) better understand the importance of bringing together diverse perspectives to guide the next chapter of conversation work in the West and beyond.

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Celene and Izabella mention so many excellent books, people, and resources, so don\u2019t forget to check out the episode notes for links to everything. A big thanks to them both for such a fun, inspiring, and educational conversation. I hope you enjoy!

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This episode is brought to you in partnership with the Colorado chapter of The Nature Conservancy and TNC chapters throughout the Western United States. Guided by science and grounded by decades of collaborative partnerships, The Nature Conservancy has a long-standing legacy of achieving lasting results to create a world where nature and people thrive.

On the last Tuesday of every month throughout 2024, Mountain & Prairie will be delving into conversations with a wide range of The Nature Conservancy\u2019s leaders, partners, collaborators, and stakeholders, highlighting the myriad of conservation challenges, opportunities, and solutions here in the American West and beyond.

To learn more about The Nature Conservancy\u2019s impactful work in the West and around the world, visit www.nature.org

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TOPICS DISCUSSED:

3:30 - Introductions

8:30 - The win-win partnership between the Jicarilla Apache Nation, the New Mexico Interstate Stream Commission, and TNC

14:00- Challenges and opportunities related to putting together the partnership deal

19:00 - Benefits to all parties as a result of the deal

21:30 - Positive ripple effects resulting from the partnership

24:15 - TNC\u2019s strategies for managing its preserves, including the Medano Zapata Ranch

29:15- The process of gathering Indigenous and local perspectives

32:00 - Strategies, tactics, and frameworks for building cross-cultural relationships

36:30 - Balancing the time it takes to build solid relationships with the reality that \u201ctime is of the essence\u201d

40:30 - Upcoming exciting projects

44:30 - Resources for further learning

50:30 - Why they each chose to apply their talents, skills, and careers to the cause of conservation

55:30 - Heroes and mentors

1:05:00 - Favorite books

1:11:00 - Parting words of wisdom

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