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b'Switzerland is one of those countries that doesn\\u2019t pop up in the news very often but appears to be ticking along nicely. In this regard it is not unlike Norway, another country that has chosen to keep an arm\\u2019s length relationship with the European Union. Now, as Brexit approaches, these two countries are among the models of post-divorce custody being considered by Britain and the EU.\\n\\nBut what is Switzerland really like? In particular, what can this multilingual, neutral, financial powerhouse teach a country like Ireland? Clare O\\u2019Dea should know; she\\u2019s an Irish journalist who has been living there for years and is the author of \\u201cThe Naked Swiss\\u201d, a book which dismantled myths and cliches about that country. Her new book \\u201cThe Naked Irish\\u201d, seeks to do the same about Ireland.\\nIn this week\\u2019s episode, Clare chats to Darach about Switzerland\\u2019s love of referenda, the differences between Swiss German and German-German, Johnny Logan, Anglo-Irish relations as seen from a safe distance\\u2026 and her favourite Irish word, of course. \\n\\nFind out more about Clare and buy her books here: https://clareodea.com\\n \\n---\\n \\nGet Kirsten Shiel art prints here: https://www.inprnt.com/gallery/kirstenshiel/ \\n\\nOrder from www.dropchef.com using the code mentioned in this podcast\\xa0\\nfor a \\u20ac15 discount\\n\\n---\\n\\n\\nContact the show:\\n\\n\\ntwitter - @motherfocloir and @theirishfor\\n\\n\\nemail - motherfocloir@headstuff.org\\n\\n\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices'