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The phrase “Nothing About us Without Us” is a catch cry of the disability movement. Yet there’s still a lot of disability training and policy that lacks meaningful direction and input from disabled people themselves.

Pam MacNeill has had a long and successful career, recently in fields pertaining to disability policy. She’s just set up her own company, Disability Responsiveness New Zealand.

In this candid conversation with Jonathan Mosen, Pam discusses her personal story, and looks at the challenges disabled people face today in a range of areas, including what New Zealanders call the tall poppy syndrome.

Visit Disability Responsiveness New Zealand at http://www.drnz.co.nz