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Sarah Edmondson and Nippy Ames are our guests for this epic Mormon Stories interview where we discuss their escape from the NXIVM cult. We discuss the similarities between NXIVM leader Keith Raniere and Joseph Smith, including secret societies existing within the larger group, and the similar tactics used to control so many people.

Sarah and Nippy share which vulnerabilities led them to become involved in NXIVM and once they were in, what tactics were used to get them to ignore red flags and their own instincts, even as far as Sarah allowing herself to be \\u201cbranded\\u201d with Keith Raniere\\u2019s initials on her skin. How does one \\u201cwake up\\u201d after being willing to go so far?

Sarah and Nippy share their paths to regaining control of their own minds and bodies to face the hard truth about what they used to believe\\u2013and how they turn that devastation into a united determination to expose Keith for what he really is to the world. We hope you\\u2019ll resonate with Sarah and Nippy\\u2019s fascinating and gripping story!

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Show notes and links:

• A Little Bit Culty podcast
• The Vow on HBO
• Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Life
• Don\'t Call it a Cult: The Shocking Story of Keith Raniere and the Women of NXIVM
• Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith
• Holy Hell film
• Wild Wild Country
• Recovering Agency: Lifting the Veil of Mormon Mind Control