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b'Jo and I talk about cultivate mindfulness, falling apart, refuge, Pema Chodron, reframe thinking about life, flake with purpose, turning into our hurt, see the humanity, manifestation of suffering, interconnected, we want to compartmentalize, woo woo practice, better ways to relate to thoughts and emotions, science supports we can train our brains, recovering practical person, notice and let go, spend quality time with self, top 10 tunes of own mind, come from a place of compassion, life has to be better than this, suffering is the clay and mechanistic to organic view of the world.'