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Owen Kelly has held a number of workshops in Helsinki exploring ways of making industrialised products at home. He has made face creams and oat milk. This year he turned his attention to vegan cheese which led him to look at the various ways in which  industrialists have begun to create plant-based meat substitutes.

In this episode he looks at the different approaches to replacing meat before returning to the vexing question of why most vegan cheese tastes disgusting. He offers a reason that relates to the whole business of industrial substitutes, before offering a different way forward.