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In the 14th episode of A Culture of Possibility, co-hosts Fran\\xe7ois Matarasso and Arlene Goldbard interview two accomplished makers of theater with older performers \\u2014 David Slater (founder and now associate member of Entelechy Arts in South London) and Alan Lyddiard (Artistic Director of The Performance Ensemble in Leeds). 

They share their stories, describe their processes in helping to create new forms of theater that serve the people they work with rather than imposing conventional forms that leave them out, and talk about the people and work that have inspired them. Alan explained that "I don\'t find much interest going to the theater, and seeing the well-made play anymore. I find it dull, mostly. But I find it exceptionally rewarding to be on the streets of a city and see the people working away doing what they do, and being creative in their daily lives. And that\'s the bit that I would like to capture and try to get hold of and try to work with and get to know better."