This is an unplanned and unedited conversation between Henry and Yuta. Like a lot of long conversations it's very rambly and filled with lots of different topics. We talk about Mike Tyson, grading in university, bizarre social phenomena at Reed College, the "meta" video games 'The Stanley Parable' and 'The Beginner's Guide' both from developer Davey Wreden, and the self-referential movie 'Adaptation' by Charlie Kaufman.