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Yuta 00:15 Okay. So today we're going to talk about the naming of our podcast, which happened months ago, but we thought we would do a follow up to the episode where we talked about, trying to come up with the name of our podcast and ultimately did not come up with name during that time. Yes. That was our trailer episode. Yeah. Go back and watch that first for context. So this one, so the name is Metagnosis and, one more time. Metagnosis. Okay. Yeah, I think we've got it. And I think we got to the idea of using the word gnosis first. And I think that's just the word that came to mind at some point, I think for me, and it meant knowledge in Greek originally, apparently. but I think it's more associated with a kind of spiritual knowledge or knowledge of the gods or, yeah, that kind of esoteric knowledge. Yeah, that's a good word. Esoteric knowledge. Yeah. Special knowledge. I think in Gnosticism it was like knowledge of, yeah. The situation that you're in spiritually where, I think the gods are evil and that one or Yahweh is evil. And then,
Henry 01:46 right. So we should explain just briefly what Gnosticism is. So the root word is gnosis and then Gnosticism is sort of a religion based around gnosis in some way.
Yuta 02:01 Yeah. That's what I gather from my limited understanding,
Henry 02:05 but we have a very superficial understanding, yeah,
Yuta 02:12 that's in reference to this. Yeah. This is not one of our main interests.
Henry 02:18 the name sounded cool. Anyways, we have an intended meaning behind why we chose the name and it fulfills some of the goals that we wanted our name to fulfill. So even though we don't know everything about the origins of the word there are some things we picked out that are relevant. So going back to Gnosticism, it's focusing on, this sort of, or how I understand it is that it's focused on an idea of the human soul or human knowledge to be divine in nature and in opposition to, not as a contradiction but in sort of battle with, traditional gods. Like for example, the Abrahamic God. So humans are like a divine source in themselves.
Yuta 03:14 They don't get it from God. How is this the inspiration for the name? No, I'm just saying what I understand of Gnosticism. I'm not saying this is the, what our podcast name means. I'm just saying this is because we're divine beings. Well, I think that I'm going, or leaking. I mean, basically, yeah, that was, that had nothing to do with the name. But I do have some idea of how this plays into what I'm thinking of our name.
Henry 03:46 how so? Well, first let's say, well I guess, and then there's one other word I wanted to mention, which was agnosticism. And this is obviously, an antonym using the, a prefix, but, meaning that it's usually used for is having, a neutral opinion on God's existence. But I think maybe more strictly etymologically it means, not having knowledge of divinity. So in opposition to Gnosticism, which while being sort of a cultish, supernatural sort of belief system at the core, that's, that's what it's getting at is a understanding of your divine nature, right? Or is that how you understand it too? Yeah. Okay. And then what I was going to say and playing into how our name is significant. so the name is Metagnosis, which Metta being a sort of overused prefixed but actually turned out to be pretty good for our name is, sort of meanings about. So rather than being gnosis itself, it's about gnosis. So maybe about knowledge. And I think that, the fact that we are not experts, so we're not appealing, so much to some sort of, gathered knowledge from specific fields or we've done lots of research. We're trying to extract knowledge from the conversation. we're trying to understand it through our own natures and not just by appealing to, well, you know, this was some, authority that says this, and I am, experienced enough in a subject in order to make that claim.
Yuta 05:47 Yeah. I agree with all that. And I saw that too. And I think maybe another reason I like the name or that I want to choose name
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Yuta 06:02 yeah, maybe, maybe it's kind of related, but yeah, I wanted, we didn't name the podcast, just knowledge or something like that or think, thinking Thinkery or something like that. And I thought that was a potential name. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of thinking related names, but what I wanted gnosis more because it, yeah. Because it has this connotation of being about something, you know, a little deeper and more important. And obviously we weren't going to do like a religious podcast, so it's not called gnosis. So that's, that's why we modified it to Metagnosis. But, yeah, even though it's, it's not a spiritual font guests, I, thought it would be good to have some reminder of having, you know, some kind of deeper goal beyond just gathering facts and thinking and maybe, you know, trying to obtain some kind of a more holistic understanding, something like that.
Henry 07:06 Yeah. A way I put it as well is that a lot of podcasts that I listened to that are sort of, you know, knowledge or specialty focused podcasts, they're sort of this person who's more or less an expert in some field interviews and other person who's an expert either in that field or some tangentially related field. And they have sort of an in depth interview where they're asking questions and getting answers, right? So it's like, well, here's the question. And then the interviewee goes, Oh, well here's the answer. Right? And there might be a little bit of back and forth trying to figure out what the answer specifically means. Maybe to a layman, but in general it's more just like, Oh, well, you know, here's the result. Right? And through listening to the podcast, you feel like you learned something cause you're like, Oh, I didn't know that before.
Henry 07:56 Now I know something from a reputable source or at least, you know, in some way I trust the person that they solve it. But in our podcast, I don't really, expect people to trust that we are like, you know, good arbiters of, like professional research or in depth experience. So it's more that we're trying to talk about the gathering of knowledge rather than doing that knowledge gathering ourselves. Or at least that's what I find ourselves doing a lot, which falls in line with kind of maybe, I don't know if a chicken before the egg, whether the, the name influenced our decisions and going forward to the podcast or if the name is more of a reflection. Oh, it's, it's both for sure. Oh yeah, yeah,
Yuta 08:49 yeah. I think, yeah, what that about knowledge means is a lot can be unclear
Henry 08:56 and not articulate, but, but I agree. Yeah. You read that it is isn't very clearly defined and I think that's intentional. We're not wanting to restrict ourselves too much. Okay. I think we explained it all. It's, yeah, that's all there is to it. There's something else. Great shortest podcast ever.