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b'Episode 49 of the Mavens Do It Better Podcast features Carron Little, poet, public engagement artist, public performance curator, organizer, educator, public policy creator, and director of Out of Site Chicago. At the core of Carron\\u2019s practice is the transformation of cities through cultural programming. She curates and organizes Out of Site Chicago, a public performance art festival showcasing cutting edge work by local and international artists since 2011. As an artist, she has been supported by the city of Lucerne, Switzerland, (2016 -2018) Liverpool U.K. (2017), Beverly, Chicago (2015 - 2016) Chicago (2014 - 2015) and Uptown, Chicago (2013 - 2015) to develop public engagement projects for cities and neighborhoods. \\nCarron and Heather caught up virtually in Chicago, Illinois and Marina del Rey, California. \\nListen in as Carron and Heather talk about: \\nThe state of art, artists and public policy in the city of Chicago and cities around the world. How Carron has been working as an advocate for fair wages for artists and how others can contribute to support and create policies that support artist access to funding opportunities and equitable stipends which can facilitate a deeper connection between artists, their cities and audiences. \\n \\nA dive into Carron\\u2019s Spare Rib project where she creates poetry based on one-on-one interviews with women from the ages of 20 to 100 that culminates in a performance for the participants, their families, and the public, weaving people, poetry, and place and expanding the notion of intimacy between strangers. Carron\\u2019s idea for Spare Rib came after Barack Obama invited three UN Delegates to come to the US to investigate the quality of life for women in America. They presented their findings in the spring of 2016 and their findings were grim. They discussed the lack of childcare provision, healthcare and wage equality for women in America impacting a heightened rate of poverty in the female population compared to our European counterparts. Carron has developed this project in five cities and culminates the work in an operatic/vocal performance, she continues to be brought into cities to replicate this project, most recently Spare Rib, Revisited. \\n \\nA reading of one of her poems from the Spare Rib project called The Long Road and a chat about her process from taking written notes during her one-on-one interview to formulate the structure of the poem, and how through continued research, performance, and edits she formulates the final version. \\n \\nA look into 2020 and the state of how we treat each other and how art helps support the fight for equality. Growing up in a political activist family combined with her supportive professors at University and one amazing lunch with a group of phenomenal women continued her love of being an artist and activist for women and all humans.'