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In medicine being able to accurately establish your diagnosis can be the difference between life or death. If I don\'t correctly diagnose my patient, then I eventually incorrectly give the wrong treatment and ultimately can cause harm which I may not have a second chance to correct. At a time where sexual assault has almost become an everyday topic I knew that it would be important for the Lunch and Learn community to understand what is sexual assault and why it is so important to know the difference. On today\'s episode we have Rhodena Mesadieu, a licensed clinical social worker and we discuss the importance of defining the term Sexual Assault.\\xa0Rhodena\\xa0\\xa0a trauma specialist who works in facilitating survivors\' healing journey from sexual abuse in adult women and young girls.
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M. Davis-Pierre: Thanks for listening to the Lunch and Learn with Dr. Berry, here to help educate, motivate, and put you on the right path to take control of your health through weekly discussions on topics in the medical field, public health arena, and in your community. And now your host, Dr. Berry. Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Hey it\'s Dr. Berry here, board certified internist, host of the Lunch and Learn, and today\'s episode is going to be a great one. We have Rhodena Mesadieu. She is a licensed clinical social worker. She\'s going to be talking to us about sexual assault, how to really define it and really get to the nitty gritty of how it affects everybody, male and female. I really want to stress the male part, because I think that sometimes gets lost in this discussion. Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Unless you\'ve been under a rock, you know sexual assault and allegations and sexual abuse have been all over TV, radio, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook; wherever you consume your media, there has been some discussion one way or the other regarding sexual assault, so I wanted to bring on a special guest who\'s an expert in this discussion to help me along and help the Lunch and Learn community, so stay tuned for an amazing episode like always. If you want the show notes, head over to DrPierresBlog.com/LLP054 and in the show notes, I\'m also having a link for a transcript. We\'re actually going to be providing a transcript for you guys for this episode, so get ready and get set for another amazing episode here with the Lunch and Learn with Dr. Berry. Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 First of all, thank you for joining another episode of the Lunch and Learn with Dr. Berry. Like I alluded to earlier last week, we have a special guest for a special topic. Unless you\'ve been sleeping under a rock and haven\'t read a magazine, haven\'t turned on your TV, this is a topic that\'s been going across the board. There\'s really not an industry that is being affected primarily from the topic of sexual assault, sexual trauma. Like you know, as an internist, I know a lot about a lot. But when I don\'t know something, I always like to bring the big guns. I always like to bring the expert on. Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Today, I have one of those experts in the building. Lunch and Learn community, first of all, I want you to give a nice round of applause wherever you\'re listening to this episode, to Rhodena Mesadieu. She is a licensed clinical social worker whose specialty is trauma-focused cognitive behavioral therapy. But again, I\'m not even going to butcher her bio. Rhodena, please tell the audience, tell the people listening who you are and why I am in such awe of why you\'re on the episode this week.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 I got a lot of questions. I have a lot of user questions that were fed to me that they wanted me to ask you. But I think I wanted to start off right in the beginning, because I\'ll admit again, I\'m an internist, but I\'m na\\xefve to some subjects. This is really one of them. Can you give us a definition or what does it mean to be sexually assaulted? What is sexual assault? Because in this day and age, I\'m not entirely sure I get the one picture. When I see one situation, they are calling that sexual assault, and I see something on a different spectrum, they\'re also calling that sexual assault, and I\'m not sure ... Again, and I\'m na\\xefve to the subject. If it\'s all under one umbrella, or is there certain levels of degree that I\'m just missing?
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 As the expert in your field, do you find when people who clearly can\'t really grasp a term fully, when they just kind of use that sexual assault ... When they kind of use it willy nilly, do you find harm in that? Is that something that we just need to kind of learn to educate ourselves on? How would you ... What are your feelings, especially you being in the field?
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Lunch and Learn community, I want to tell you again; you\'re going to be extremely very educated by this expert here. Again, I\'m excited to have her on the show this week. Again, it\'s only been five, 10 minutes, and I\'m already adjusting the mindset of what it even means to be sexually assaulted; to be sexually abused; sexually harassed. There were terms that even I as a physician just kind of lump together. If anyone in the field should be able to recognize the subtle differences, and sometimes really not so subtle differences, it should be those in the healthcare field. Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 If those in the healthcare field like myself have trouble separating the terms, I can only imagine what our quote unquote "laymen" may be experiencing, especially when they turn on the TV and they see all the women and men coming out. Almost seems like droves and telling their story, just kind of getting filed under that one umbrella. I definitely don\'t want us to downplay the importance of the definition, because again, with definition comes power. If we define it like we\'re supposed to define it, it allows our mind to really embrace when a lot of ... Again, I don\'t want to ... I\'m not sure if victim is the right term, and please correct me if I\'m wrong, but a lot of the victims ... the people who come forward in their stories, it allows them to empower themselves as well.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Wow. Wow, that\'s ... Again, thank you for educating us. As someone in the health field who may run into or encounter someone who has experienced a sexual assault or sexual-type trauma, because I\'m not fully trained in that field, what are some things that I should be looking for? What are some I guess common characteristics or mannerisms or symptoms that they would experience that would maybe help me clue me in to maybe those are questions I should be asking?
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 And for those who maybe that are unfamiliar with fibromyalgia, from an internist\'s standpoint, fibromyalgia is one of those diagnosis that we consider a wastebasket diagnosis. Reason being is that you have your patients who come in with chronic, excruciating pain and you may do a million dollar workup and not really find a reason why they\'re in pain. You check for everything. Arthritis, infection. Everything under the sun to try to see why is this patient in front of me having so much pain? And I can tell you as an internist, I will ... and as a physician in general, we are not the best. Again, I think I\'m very fortunate. In close proximity, I have a therapist who likes to talk. And she stresses that I should like to talk. Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 But I\'ll be honest. As a physician, that\'s not our forte. We tend not to talk a lot about the stuff we can\'t see. So because we can\'t physically see on the blood test, because we can\'t physically see on an imaging, we say we don\'t know. And we\'re not the best at trying to get down to the bottom of maybe there\'s another reason why she\'s having this pain and discomfort. In medical school, sexual trauma, sexual abuse isn\'t one of the questions we tend to ask when we have pain. It just isn\'t.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 There\'s a laundry list of questions we ask, and I\'m not sure if it\'s a factor of physicians don\'t want to go down that rabbit hole because they don\'t know, or they\'re just neglectfully saying, "I\'m not even going to touch that," which is very interesting. Again, we could probably talk on that for quite some time, what physicians should be doing
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 And your line of work and of all the people you\'ve seen, is there any common traits as far as who gets affected from sexual trauma, sexual abuse? Is there either gender or race or ... Is there a pattern that you tend to see a little bit more often than not that, again, would or should clue someone like me to say, "You know what? This person\'s kind of checking a few boxes. I really need to make sure I\'m addressing and trying to go after to make sure I know all what\'s going on."
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Oh, wow.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 First of all, a lot of ... Again, Lunch and Learn community, a lot of gems being dropped today, especially for the men. The men. And I\'ve said this before, I think some of our men are like, as superheroes, they act like nothing happens to them. They act like they can\'t get sick. They act like they\'re invincible. And they tend to avoid the physician. I think in a misogynistic way, we talk about sexual trauma, sexual abuse. Again, I\'m not going to speak for all men, but I think a lot of them really assume that this is a female, a women\'s problem instead of a problem that affects a lot of people.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 But those numbers, I\'m actually surprised. I didn\'t realize it was that high.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Wow.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Wow. Wow, okay. All right, like I said, you know, I\'m usually not stuttering or at a loss for words, but again, those are ... This is a very telling topic. When you hear facts and figures and you\'re just like, "Wow." It just takes you aback, because again, I think a lot of times, we think of this topic and we think, oh no, this is primarily women. Only primarily women are going to deal with this. And no, no, no. Clearly as day, there\'s probably a lot of men walking around now who\'s experienced some form of sexual abuse, trauma. And again, I hate that I\'m just trying to gel the words, but I shouldn\'t. But they\'re experiencing some type of sexual assault that\'s occurred some time in their lifetime. Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Again, one out of six. That\'s a lot of people. And they\'re still manifesting that even as adults. Do you see that a lot where something occurred when they were 12, 13, 14, 15 and they suppress it, they buried it, but now they have certain mannerisms and traits in their adulthood that you can almost, especially in your field with your expertise, point back to? Like, no, see what happened to you when you were 12? That\'s why you\'re acting the way you are now.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Wow.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Please correct me with this analogy, because a lot of the patients, especially my male patients, when they come to the doctor\'s office, it\'s usually some back end way of why they\'re coming. Let\'s say they\'re having some issues, some sexual health issues and they want those big three medications. If they\'re saying, "You know what? I\'m having all these problems here," they may not directly come out and say, "Hey, I want the Viagra. I want the Cialis of the world." But they have a whole bunch of different excuses of why they\'re coming, and then right when I\'m about to get out the door, they say, "Oh, by the way." Do you find that happening a lot as well, too, as far as they come in the door for something but then at the end, it\'s like, "No, no, no. This is what I really want."
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 That is just too funny. Because yeah, right when you say that, it\'s like, I wonder if they do that to you guys, too. Because I know they do it to us. But I know that they usually never come out and directly say, "Hey, no, this is why I\'m here." All right, so again, I love to be enlightened, ladies and gentlemen. Again, this has definitely been an amazing one. Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 How, especially in your line of work, how has all of the events that\'s been happening, starting from Hollywood and trickling to almost every industry now, where you got people getting kicked off the Today Show. How has that affected your field? Are you seeing more of an influx, or is it a different ... Is there more people coming, or are they coming at it different ways? What would you say that you\'ve noticed as a big difference of the fact that now we are actually talking about it because we\'re forcing it in the open?
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 I\'m so glad-
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Ooh, I love it. Ooh, I\'m so glad you said the men need to check themselves. Because I\'m privy to a lot of obviously male conversations, right? Because they feel much more freer to talk. And instead of saying, "You know what? I need to make sure that what I\'m doing doesn\'t cross any line," and I think we can talk about what consent means. They\'re talking in the sense of, "Oh, I need to protect my job." Or, "I don\'t want women around me, because for some reason, I\'m such an animal, I cannot control myself if there\'s a woman in the board room, and I cannot control myself if there\'s a woman in the office, so let me just get rid of them instead of trying to change myself." Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 And again, and I\'m speaking ... I speak as a contingent, being privy to conversations. I\'m like, does that make any sense? Again, I have two daughters. I have a wife. I have a mom. I have cousins. I\'d never want them to ever feel that, one, they can\'t go to work. One, they can\'t act as if they want to act for fear of, oh, I might get fired. Or they\'re not going to be able to act, quote unquote "normal" around me.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Talk to them.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 I\'m so glad you said some of that, because I definitely wanted to make sure ... Because I have a lot of men who listen to the podcast as well, and again, when I hear that conversation, I\'m like, "Bro, what are you talking about?" You know, honestly, I have to say that. "What do you mean?" And they always use that crutch; "Well, you know, I have sisters. I have a mom. I respect women, but ..." It\'s always a but. How come I can\'t talk about this in a certain way? And I say, "Once you have to say a but, stop right there." That\'s where you should-
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 That\'s where you should end it.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Amazing, amazing gems. And you know what? Again, the men who are listening, you know what? If you have a question, just ask. Right? A lot of times, they won\'t even ask. They\'re like, "How come I can\'t do ..." Did she say you could? I immediately will point to them, "What if someone ..." Let\'s say if they\'re heterosexual. "What if someone of the same sex did that to you? Would you have no problem with that?" And automatically, you get the, "Well, I don\'t want ... No, no, no." Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Well, if you can understand what it means to have an unwanted sexual advancement, unwanted sexual comment in your presence, unwanted display of power, because I think men use it a lot from a power standpoint, whether position in a job, position at work, position in school. I think they use it as power more than anything, and when we start saying, "Well, you know what? You can\'t actually talk like this around women in your office, or women in your school." Right? I think they take it as, "You\'re taking my power away and I don\'t want my power being taken away in this matter. What other way can I circle around it while still keeping my power?"
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 I know we don\'t have you for long, so I want to ... There\'s a few more questions. For those who do come forward, after that step, because obviously it\'s a big step. We don\'t want to belittle the step of actually acknowledging something happened or something is happening. What\'s next for them? I think this is where you take the ball and run. What is next for them? What do you educate and empower them with to help continue moving forward?
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Yes.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Do you ever place a timeframe where they should ... I hate to say it, but they should, I guess, move on? Is there ever a good time when after a month, after six month, after ... Is there a one size fits all when you talk about moving forward?
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Very powerful. Very, very powerful. Before we go, for one, we definitely want to let people know how they can find you. But for someone who may be listening and just judging off the numbers, it\'s a pretty good chance that someone\'s listening who hasn\'t come forward. Is there anything that you would say to them that\'s say, well, I know it hasn\'t happened yet, but eventually it happened. Is there anything that I can say or you could say or something that ... help them, say, "You know, there is help out there."
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 This has been absolutely amazing. Again, I can\'t understate how amazing it\'s been to have someone in your field, an expert like yourself, be able to really educate. Again, I know you\'re educating the Lunch and Learn community, but I can tell you, you definitely have educated me. The wheels are turning as far as what can I do as a physician to make sure I\'m asking those questions and making sure it\'s not super awkward or something I\'m just trying to get through to get to the next patient room. So thank you
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 I can tell you-
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 I can tell you we do not. It\'s definitely not something that ... And it\'s weird because usually, our medical history is, "I hypertension, diabetes." And maybe one of the questions, if I think about it, maybe a couple of those questions may have it, but they probably have to go through 10, 15 different medical diagnosis before they even get to that point. Again, that\'s the physician, the health practitioner has to go to 10 to 15 different medical questions before they may ask. I\'m not even saying they will. They may ask. If it\'s checked off, great. But the likelihood that a physician\'s going to offer up, "Hey, by the way, anything ..." is extremely low. Unfortunately.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Amazing. Before we go, please tell our community, how can they get in touch with you? Because I think there\'s people who are going to be listening to it, people are going to read this and read the transcript and want to seek some help. How can they get in touch with you?
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 And everybody, we will have a full transcript, and obviously in the show notes, we\'re going to have all of your contact information as well, so even if you\'re driving and you can\'t write down everything, you\'ll have access to it. And please reach out. If this is a topic and you\'ve seen the TV, you\'ve read the blogs, you\'ve read the news, and you\'ve seen all of these things happen and in the back of your mind, you\'re saying, "You know what? I think I may be a statistic in this amazing topic here," please feel free. Reach out to her at your earliest convenience, at your private time. Because again, getting help, empowering yourself is really why we do what we do on a daily routine. We love to see the transformation, love to see the mental strength that comes from saying, "I have a problem and I need help, and can you please help me?" Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 So please feel free again, bombard her. She has been absolutely amazing. Again, for Lunch and Learn community, thank you for all that you do. And again, as always, Dr. Berry here, helping to empower you to take control of your health today.
Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Hey, Dr. Berry here. You have just listened to another great episode of the Lunch and Learn with Dr. Berry. Hope you learned something from today\'s episode. Hope you learn from all of the episodes that you get a chance to listen to. Before you leave, if you not have already done so, go ahead and subscribe to the podcast. I am everywhere where you like listening to podcasts at, whether it be Apple Podcast, Google Play, SoundCloud, Stitcher Radio, iHeartRadio, wherever you like listening to podcasts, the Lunch and Learn with Dr. Berry is there. Dr. Berry:\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0 Also, go ahead and follow me on my social media outlets. I\'m on Instagram. I\'m on Facebook as well as Twitter. All at Lunch Learn pod, whether it be Twitter.com/LunchLearnPod, Facebook.com/LunchLearnPod, and Instagram.com/LunchLearnPod, where you can get any videos, any pictures I may post, any messages or writing. Please follow me on there, right after you go ahead and subscribe to the podcast, and right before you leave me a five star review on either Apple Podcast or Stitcher Radio, or wherever you can actually leave a review. I\'m much appreciative of all you guys\' support, and like I said earlier in the show, I will see you next week. Bye.
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