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Published: Sept. 19, 2018, 7:28 p.m.

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We are finally back after a very very very busy summer.\\xa0 But we couldn\'t resist making some time to sit down with one of our guests, Jenny Boyd, and talk to her about creative and music and her book It\'s Not Only Rock \'n\' Roll.

Topics we cover:

\\u2022\\xa0 We introduce Jenny Boyd, a recent guest at Villa Cappelli

\\u2022\\xa0 She wrote the book It\\u2019s Not Only Rock and Roll\\xa0 Click here to get a copy.

\\u2022\\xa0 How Paul grew up with the music Jenny had a first-hand account of this music

\\u2022\\xa0 How Jenny is a part of rock and roll nobility if you will

\\u2022\\xa0 How music today doesn\\u2019t have the same social relevance as it did in the 60s and 70s

\\u2022\\xa0 We wonder what has changed, why aren\\u2019t artist tapping into the zeitgeist like that used to

\\u2022\\xa0 They really had no idea that it was going to be such an important time and that music would be such a big part of it.

\\u2022\\xa0 The Beatles were like the first boy band

\\u2022\\xa0 Jenny was married to Mick Fleetwood of Fleetwood Mac

\\u2022\\xa0 How Jenny and Mick meet

\\u2022\\xa0 Pattie Boyd is Jenny\\u2019s sister, who was married to George Harrison of the Beatles and later Eric Clapton

\\u2022\\xa0 Jenny talks about how Pattie and George met

\\u2022\\xa0 How Eric Clapton wooed Jenny away from George, writing Layla for her while Pattie and George were still together

Here\'s the song on iTunes and below are the lyrics:

[Verse 1]

What will you do when you get lonely

And nobody is waiting by your side?

You have been running and hiding much too long

You know it is just your foolish pride

[Chorus]

Layla, you\\u2019ve got me on my knees

Layla, I am begging, darling, please Layla

Darling, won\'t you ease my worried mind?

[Verse 2]

I tried to give you consolation

When your old man had let you down

Like a fool, I fell in love with you

You turned my whole world upside down

[Chorus]

Layla, you\\u2019ve got me on my knees

Layla, I am begging, darling, please Layla

Darling, won\'t you ease my worried mind?

[Verse 3]

Let us make the best of the situation

Before I finally go insane

Please, don\\u2019t say we will never find a way

And tell me all my love in vain

[Chorus]

Layla, you\\u2019ve got me on my knees

Layla, I am begging, darling, please Layla

Darling, won\'t you ease my worried mind?

[Chorus]

Layla, you\\u2019ve got me on my knees

Layla, I am begging, darling, please Layla

Darling, won\'t you ease my worried mind?

[Chorus]

Layla, you\\u2019ve got me on my knees

Layla, I am begging, darling, please Layla

Darling, won\'t you ease my worried mind?

[Chorus]

Layla, you\\u2019ve got me on my knees

Layla, I am begging, darling, please Layla

Darling, won\'t you ease my worried mind?

\\u2022\\xa0 How Paul likes Bell Bottom Blues from the same album

\\u2022\\xa0 The drive is very key for all the artists Jenny interviewed

\\u2022\\xa0 They also had a sense of destiny.\\xa0 For example, Graham Nash of Crosby, Stills & Nash said he just knew they were going to be famous

\\u2022\\xa0 Jenny went to San Fransisco in the 60s and had an \\u201cah-ha\\u201d moment

\\u2022\\xa0 When she moved to San Fransisco, they were all tapping into the zeitgeist

\\u2022\\xa0 How the musicians hung out with royals and everyone was just equal

\\u2022\\xa0 How Paul thinks pot had something to do with it

\\u2022\\xa0 Paul\\u2019s memory of disc eaters

\\u2022\\xa0 Paul\\u2019s story of when Rumors came out and smoking when his Mom was visiting

\\u2022\\xa0 How the song Jennifer Juniper was written about Jenny by Donovan

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"Jennifer Juniper"
Jennifer Juniper, lives upon the hill
Jennifer Juniper, sitting very still

Is she sleeping? I don\'t think so
Is she breathing? Yes, very low
Whatcha doing, Jennifer, my love?

Jennifer Juniper, rides a dappled mare
Jennifer Juniper, lilacs in her hair

Is she dreaming? Yes, I think so
Is she pretty? Yes, ever so
Whatcha doing, Jennifer, my love?

I\'m thinking of what it would be like if she loved me
How just lately this happy song, it came along
And I like to somehow try and tell you

Jennifer Juniper, hair of golden flax
Jennifer Juniper, longs for what she lacks

Do you like her? Yes, I do, sir
Would you love her? Yes, I would, sir
Whatcha doing, Jennifer, my love?

Jennifer Juniper
Jennifer Juniper
Jennifer Juniper

Jennifer Juniper, vit sur la colline
Jennifer Juniper, assise tr\\xe8s tranquille

Dort-elle? Je ne crois pas
Respire-t-elle? Oui, mais tout bas
Qu\'est-ce que tu fais, Jenny, mon amour?

Jennifer Juniper
Jennifer Juniper
Jennifer Juniper

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\\u2022\\xa0 Jenny went to India with the Beatles

\\u2022\\xa0 How the Beatles influenced people to start meditating

\\u2022\\xa0 How they were met at the airport by Mia Farrow

\\u2022\\xa0 How the Beatles would come up with songs on the roof of where they were staying and a lot of those songs ended up on The White Album

\\u2022\\xa0 What the book is about, which is that we all have a creative potential

\\u2022\\xa0 One common thread explored in the book is the \\u201cmuse\\u201d

\\u2022\\xa0 Abraham Maslow coined the term \\u201cpeak experience\\u201d

\\u2022\\xa0 How many of the artist had never talked about before where their creativity comes from

\\u2022\\xa0 How some of the artists said if they didn\\u2019t write the inspiration down when they had it, say in bed, then they would later hear it and someone else had actually \\u201cpicked it up\\u201d and written it down

\\u2022\\xa0 How when the inspiration visits, it visits, and you have to answer the call at that moment

\\u2022\\xa0 How Paul creates starting with a visual, and that is the middle of the story, then you create by writing going back to the start and then the end

\\u2022\\xa0 How the artists see themselves as just the messengers

\\u2022\\xa0 How Jenny interviewed 75 artists

\\u2022\\xa0 How it sounds like a great Netflix series

\\u2022\\xa0 How it would be hard to do a book like this now

\\u2022\\xa0 How Jenny had a calling card when contacting the artists

\\u2022\\xa0 How the bands would get so connected to each other that they would all start on the same wrong verse together

\\u2022\\xa0 How runners can tap into the peak experience as well

\\u2022\\xa0 Jenny was in love with Buddy Holly when she was young

\\u2022\\xa0 Jenny talks about her experience when John Lennon died

\\u2022\\xa0 We talk a little about Catcher in the Rye, a book Paul has never finished

\\u2022\\xa0 How artistic expression can move us in so many ways

\\u2022\\xa0 Jenny\\u2019s website is:\\xa0\\xa0http://www.thejennyboyd.com/

\\u2022\\xa0 Paul asks for some of Jenny\\u2019s favorite songs:

\\u201cThings we said today\\u201d by the Beatles

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"Things We Said Today"
You say you will love me
If I have to go
You\'ll be thinking of me
Somehow I will know
Someday when I\'m lonely
Wishing you weren\'t so far away
Then I will remember
Things we said today

You say you\'ll be mine, girl
Till the end of time
These days such a kind girl
Seems so hard to find
Someday when we\'re dreaming
Deep in love, not a lot to say
Then we will remember
Things we said today

Me, I\'m just the lucky kind
Love to hear you say that love is luck
And though we may be blind
Love is here to stay and that\'s enough

To make you mine, girl
Be the only one
Love me all the time, girl
We\'ll go on and on
Someday when we\'re dreaming
Deep in love, not a lot to say
Then we will remember
Things we said today

Me, I\'m just the lucky kind
Love to hear you say that love is luck
Though we may be blind
Love is here to stay and that\'s enough

To make you mine, girl
Be the only one
Love me all the time, girl
We\'ll go on and on
Someday when we\'re dreaming
Deep in love, not a lot to say
Then we will remember
Things we said today

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\\u201cI put a spell on you\\u201d by Nina Simone

[embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua2k52n_Bvw[/embed]

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"I Put A Spell On You"
I put a spell on you
\'Cause you\'re mine

You better stop the things you do
I ain\'t lyin\'
No I ain\'t lyin\'

You know I can\'t stand it
You\'re runnin\' around
You know better daddy
I can\'t stand it cause you put me down
Yeah, Yeah

I put a spell on you
Because you\'re mine
You\'re mine

I love ya
I love you
I love you
I love you anyhow
And I don\'t care
If you don\'t want me
I\'m yours right now

You hear me
I put a spell on you
Because you\'re mine

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\\u201cFurther on up the road\\u201d by Bobby Bland

[embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRZCdJ4n60Q[/embed]

Further on up the road, someone gonna hurt you like you hurt me
Further on up the road, someone gonna hurt you like you hurt me
Further on up the road, baby you just wait and see

You got to reap just what you sow, that old saying is true
You got to reap just what you sow, that old saying is true
Like you mistreat someone, someone\'s gonna mistreat you

Now you\'re laughing pretty baby, someday you\'re gonna be crying
Now you\'re laughing pretty baby, some, someday you\'re gonna be crying
Further on up the road, you\'ll find out I wasn\'t lying

Yeah, baby, further on up the road, baby, hmmm, you\'ll find out I wasn\'t lying

Further on up the road, when you\'re all alone and blue
Further on up the road, when you\'re all alone and blue
You\'re gonna ask me to take you back baby, but I\'ll have somebody new

Hmmm, baby, further on up the road
Hmmm, baby, further on up the road
Hmmm, you\'ll get yours

\\u201cLandslide\\u201d by Stevie Nix

[embed]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sQ7cuYgjzw[/embed]

"Landslide"
I took my love, I took it down
I climbed a mountain and I turned around
And I saw my reflection in the snow-covered hills
\'Till the landslide brought me down

Oh, mirror in the sky, what is love?
Can the child within my heart rise above?
Can I sail through the changing ocean tides?
Can I handle the seasons of my life?

Well, I\'ve been afraid of changing
\'Cause I\'ve built my life around you
But time makes you bolder
Even children get older
And I\'m getting older too

Well, I\'ve been afraid of changing
\'Cause I\'ve built my life around you
But time makes you bolder
Even children get older
And I\'m getting older too
Oh, I\'m getting older too

Oh, take my love, take it down
Oh, climb a mountain and turn around
And if you see my reflection in the snow-covered hills
Well the landslide will bring it down
And if you see my reflection in the snow-covered hills
Well the landslide will bring it down, oh oh
The landslide will bring it down

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\\u2022\\xa0 How Paul appreciates The Beatles\\u2019 songs more as he gets older

\\u2022\\xa0 Paul tells his story about George Michael and The Beatles

\\u2022\\xa0 One of Paul\\u2019s favorite Beatles\\u2019 songs at the time was Hey Jude, and he explains why

\\u2022\\xa0 Paul talks about preferring Christine McVie over Stevie Nicks

\\u2022\\xa0 Jenny talks about how Stevie Nicks joined Fleetwood Mack

\\u2022\\xa0 How when Stevie joined the band it totally changed their sound

\\u2022\\xa0 Jenny talks just a bit about her time at Villa Cappelli

If you liked this podcast, we do a second recap podcast with Jenny in the next one.\\xa0 What do you think?\\xa0 Did we miss out on asking Jenny a question?\\xa0 What would you ask her?\\xa0 Let us know in the comments (and she just may respond herself!).

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