"Letting Go" with Tommy Pico, Emily Heller, Eli Saslow, and The Helio Sequence

Published: Oct. 26, 2018, 11 a.m.

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Host Luke Burbank and announcer Elena Passarello confess to how bad they are at \\u201cletting go;\\u201d poet Tommy Pico explains how writing as his alter ego "Teebs" allows him to be less self-censoring in his work; journalist Eli Saslow discusses Derek Black \\u2013 the subject of his new book "Rising Out of Hatred" \\u2013 and how the once-heir to the white nationalist movement made a stunning transformation; comedian Emily Heller spins gut-busting analogies to online dating; and indie rock duo The Helio Sequence perform \\u201cLately\\u201d from their album \\u201cKeep Your Eyes Ahead.\\u201d

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