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b'Thank you for listening to the Leaders, Innovators and Big Ideas podcast, supported by\\xa0Rainforest Alberta.The podcast that highlights those people who are contributing to and/or supporting the innovation ecosystem in Alberta.Al Del Degan\\xa0I am a proven leader with over twenty-three years of diverse experience designing, delivering, and supporting software and technology projects. I believe in giving back to my community and I enjoy networking and helping to grow Alberta\\u2019s innovation ecosystem. Creatively you will find me pursuing my passions of podcasting, photography and wood working along with the occasional round of golf.Greg Hart is a lifetime entrepreneur who has been studying, applying and innovating in the area of behaviour-based design for thirty years. He has applied these approaches in over 200 different challenging design settings from manufacturing to software and even urban spaces. He is a partner in Thin Air Labs and the co-founder of InceptionU. When he wants to relax, he referees lacrosse.\\xa0Please be sure to share this episode with everyone you know. If you are interested in being either a host, a guest, or a sponsor of the show, please reach out. We are published in Google Podcasts\\xa0and the\\xa0iTunes store for Apple Podcasts\\xa0We would be grateful if you could give us a rating as it helps spread the word about the show.Show SummaryGreg talks about how he went from a quiet childhood to becoming a young entrepreneur rocking through to leading world-changing organizations. Greg looks at things differently through the eyes of design and critical thinking. He believes that there are better ways of doing things in nearly every aspect of life, and he is not just thinking about it, he is making it happen.Show Quote:"It\'s interesting when you start going into an industrial space and you start bench-testing ideas [...] when it comes time to build a full prototype you don\'t get to build a fifteen thousand dollar version of it [...] you actually have to build a fifteen million dollar version of it.""The whole process of creating the Rainforest was creating this very amorphous, messy situation that lives up to the metaphor of an actual rainforest.""There\'s a role for people who are wanting to invest in something that\'s different. "Credits...This Episode Sponsored By:\\xa0Community Now! MagazineEpisode Music:\\xa0Tony Del DeganCreator & Producer:\\xa0Al Del DeganSystem Engineering Sponsor:\\xa0Kris Chase - PODMaster 2020'