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b'12 so\\u013ci, kas j\\u0101noiet, lai tiktu gal\\u0101 ar savu alkohola atkar\\u012bbu. Protams, ka tie nav vienk\\u0101r\\u0161i so\\u013ci, bet vesela programma, ko pied\\u0101v\\u0101 Latvijas anon\\u012bmo alkoholi\\u0137u sadraudz\\u012bba, kas \\u0161ogad atz\\u012bm\\u0113 savu 35. past\\u0101v\\u0113\\u0161anas gadu. Par sadraudz\\u012bbu un atvese\\u013co\\u0161an\\u0101s programmu saruna raid\\u012bjum\\u0101 K\\u0101 lab\\u0101k dz\\u012bvot. St\\u0101sta teologs, no\\u0113tisk\\u0101s vesel\\u012bbas kopienas "Elizeja" dibin\\u0101t\\u0101js Kaspars Simanovi\\u010ds, narkolo\\u0123e, psihoterapete Ilze Maksima un AA biedrs Orests.\\n\\n"M\\u0113s sak\\u0101m, ka j\\u0101sasniedz savas bedres dibens \\u2013 vienam tas ir pie tirgus, kur lielie konteineri, citam tas ir, kad vi\\u0146am J\\u016brmalas m\\u0101j\\u0101 ir paliku\\u0161i tikai "por\\u0161i" un "lambord\\u017e\\u012bni". Tas var b\\u016bt da\\u017e\\u0101di," sarun\\u0101 atz\\u012bst Orests, skaidrojot, kad cilv\\u0113ki v\\u0113r\\u0161as AA biedr\\u012bb\\u0101, lai sev pal\\u012bdz\\u0113tu.\\n\\nIlze Maksima Diagnostiski v\\u0113rt\\u0113 procesu, kas ir noticis apm\\u0113ram gada laik\\u0101. Ir vair\\u0101ki apst\\u0101k\\u013ci, kas nosaka, cik \\u0101tri saslim\\u0161ana progres\\u0113. Vi\\u0146a vienm\\u0113r progres\\u0113, nekad nen\\u0101k atpaka\\u013c.\\n\\n"T\\u0101 ir nianse, kur cilv\\u0113ki mald\\u0101s, ka es tagad k\\u0101du laiku atturos, tad viss b\\u016bs k\\u0101rt\\u012bb\\u0101, es atkal var\\u0113\\u0161u s\\u0101kt lietot. Tie ir lieli maldi, inform\\u0101cijas tr\\u016bkums. Slim\\u012bba tikai un vien\\u012bgi\\xa0progres\\u0113. Vi\\u0146a nav iz\\u0101rst\\u0113jama, bet ir labi \\u0101rst\\u0113jama," skaidro Ilze Maksima.\\n\\nOrests nor\\u0101da, ka sadraudz\\u012bbas 12 so\\u013cu programma ir k\\u0101 ieteikums.\\xa0\\n\\n"M\\u0113s smejamies, ka tas nav oblig\\u0101ti ir l\\u012bdz\\u012bgi, k\\u0101 ar izpletni: kad lec \\u0101r\\u0101 no lidma\\u0161\\u012bnas ar izpletni, nav jau oblig\\u0101ti vi\\u0146u atv\\u0113rt, ir ieteikts paraut \\u0161o \\u0161\\u0146or\\u012bti, t\\u0101tad lietot \\u0161o programmu. Ir cilv\\u0113ki, kas gadiem n\\u0101k uz AA, vi\\u0146i j\\u016btas komfortabli, vi\\u0146i programmu nelieto. Vi\\u0146i nedzer, v\\u0113rt\\u0113, vai vi\\u0146\\u0161 ir skaidr\\u0101, vai dz\\u012bvo "saus\\u0101", tas ir vi\\u0146a zi\\u0146\\u0101," atz\\u012bst Orests.\\n\\nVi\\u0146\\u0161 ar\\u012b nor\\u0101da, ka cilv\\u0113ki ma\\u0101k\\u0101s pils\\u0113t\\u0101s kautr\\u0113jas pievienoties AA sadraudz\\u012bbai, jo k\\u0101 es ie\\u0161u uz Anon\\u012bmo alkoholi\\u0137u sapulci, mani ta\\u010du visi kaimi\\u0146i paz\\u012bst. T\\u0101 var b\\u016bt liel\\u0101k\\u0101 probl\\u0113ma.\\n\\n"Kad tas dibens ir sasniegts, cilv\\u0113ks ir gatavs dar\\u012bt jebko, tas ir \\u012bstais br\\u012bdis, kad s\\u0101kas atvese\\u013co\\u0161an\\u0101s," nor\\u0101da Orests.\\n\\nIlze Maksima atz\\u012bst, ka \\u0161\\u0101da pal\\u012bdz\\u012bbas forma daudz pieejam\\u0101ka, nek\\u0101 narkologa konsult\\u0101cija, jo ir re\\u0123ioni, kur narkologa nav, vai ar\\u012b rind\\u0101 uz konsult\\u0101ciju j\\u0101gaida m\\u0113nesi vai pat vair\\u0101k.\\n\\n"\\u0122imene nevar izvilkt cilv\\u0113ku, neviens nevar izvilkt cilv\\u0113ku," uzskata Kaspars Simanovi\\u010ds. "Es parasti saku, ka lab\\u0101k\\u0101 pal\\u012bdz\\u012bba alkoholi\\u0137im vai atkar\\u012bgajam, ir vi\\u0146am nepal\\u012bdz\\u0113t. Kam\\u0113r visi danco ri\\u0146\\u0137i, apk\\u0101rt atkar\\u012bgajam un m\\u0113\\u0123ina ar vi\\u0146u kaut ko dar\\u012bt, tur nekas nel\\u012bdz. Vi\\u0146\\u0161 ir j\\u0101liek mier\\u0101. Cilv\\u0113kam ir j\\u0101\\u013cauj p\\u0113c iesp\\u0113j\\u0101s \\u0101tr\\u0101k pa\\u0161am piedz\\u012bvot savas r\\u012bc\\u012bbas sekas."\\n\\n"Vi\\u0146\\u0161 arvien vair\\u0101k sl\\u012bd\\u0113s uz leju un \\u0161aj\\u0101 sl\\u012bd\\u0113\\u0161anas proces\\u0101 katru reizi ir iesp\\u0113ja notikt atsitiena punktam. Vienam tas b\\u016bs mazliet augst\\u0101k\\u0101 pak\\u0101p\\u0113, vienam zem\\u0101k, citam - v\\u0113l zem\\u0101k, k\\u0101dam nenotiks visp\\u0101r un tad m\\u0113s vi\\u0146u atrad\\u012bsim nosalu\\u0161u zem tilta kartona kast\\u0113..." turpina Kaspars Simanovi\\u010ds."Ir j\\u0101novelk robe\\u017eas.\\xa0Slikt\\u0101kais, ko izdara tuvinieki, uz\\u0146emas sekas vi\\u0146a viet\\u0101, un vi\\u0146\\u0161 nej\\u016bt \\u0161\\u012bs sekas, turpina dz\\u012bvot bezatbild\\u012bgi, jo sekas uz\\u0146emas cits. K\\u0101p\\u0113c man main\\u012bt kaut ko sav\\u0101 darb\\u012bb\\u0101?'