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#311 - Trump, Obama and ratings gold
Author Charlie LeDuff joins producer Michael O’Connell to discuss his new book, Sh*tshow: The country’s collapsing and the ratings are great, and recounts the time he was this close to becoming Trump’s running mate in 2016. It’s All Journalism is a weekly podcast about digital journalism. Find out all the latest news about our podcast by signing up for our weekly email newsletter.