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b'This episode of Inside EMS is brought to you by Lexipol, the experts in policy, training, wellness support and grants assistance for first responders and government leaders. To learn more, visit\\xa0lexipol.com.\\n\\u201cMy first reaction was, what the hell. My second reaction was, well, I guess if there\\u2019s not going to be any participation agreement, then we\\u2019re not bound by confidentiality anymore, and I\\u2019ll just email the Booz Allen presentation to every member of Congress, and say, \\u2018here\\u2019s the savings to the Medicare program, please pass the TIP and TAD language. And I honestly think we should do that, and we probably will.\\u201d \\u2014 Matt Zavadsky\\nIn this crossover episode of Inside EMS and EMS One-Stop, Matt Zavadsky, MS-HSA, EMT, chief transformation officer at MedStar Mobile Healthcare (an ET3 participant), joins cohosts Chris Cebollero and Rob Lawrence to discuss the recently announced end of the ET3 program.\\nTop quotes from this episode\\n\\u201cThat must be a mistake \\u2026 I was just dumbfounded, absolutely dumbfounded.\\u201d \\u2014 Matt Zavadsky\\n\\u201cWe can\\u2019t stop this \\u2013 we\\u2019ve got to continue to move this along somehow and ensure that we\\u2019re still doing the things we need to do for our patients.\\u201d \\u2014 Chris Cebollero\\n\\u201cContinue to do what you do while we try to sort out this mess, because we thought we were on the right route, and then someone\\u2019s now put out a roadblock, so we have to work out how to detour or indeed knock it down. Keep up the good work while we try to work out how to get around this.\\u201d \\u2014 Rob Lawrence\\n\\u201cWe as a profession cannot let this be the final word.\\u201d \\u2014 Matt Zavadsky\\nIn addition to why CMS didn\\u2019t see the savings they were anticipating, and the hoops agencies had to jump through to participate in the ET3 program, the group focuses on what\\u2019s next for reimbursement reform.\\nTogether, they discuss:\\nHow the national associations (NAEMT, AAA, IAFC, IAFF) are working to get legislation introduced in Congress to get treatment in place and transport to alternate destinations (TIP and TAD) covered\\nThe need for data from organizations that participated in the ET3 model that proves the cost savings\\nAdmittance avoidance vs. arrival avoidance at the ED\\nTurning frustration with Medicare into action\\nEnjoying the show? Please take a moment to\\xa0rate and review us on Apple Podcasts.\\xa0Contact the Inside EMS team at\\xa0theshow@ems1.com\\xa0to share ideas, suggestions and feedback, or if you\\u2019d like to join us as a guest.'