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Anyone who met or knew Erly must have thought the same thing: What is it about her that amazed us so much? How on earth does she do it all? How many hours of sleep does she have? Through this discussion, I found all the answers. The truth is according to Erly, work-life balance is only possible if you can balance your expectation with the commitment you have set for yourself. A highly target-oriented person, she flawlessly brought us into the Pertamina dimension, which was the third-largest crude oil producer in Indonesia in 2020. As a non-oil person, all I know about Pertamina is solely based on the things I saw and read from various news-outlets. Erly's frequent posts in her social media continually educating her followers on what it means to be a part of this world-class company. I may only understand half of her life in Procurement Division, but I'll be lying if I did not think she is one hell of a productive women. Talking to her not only energised me as a female (believe you me, this interview is all about female empowerment), but also leaving me fired up for any life challenges. One challenge at a time, then you'll be surprised on your achievement. I guess the 1-3-5 Pertamina formulas may work for all aspect in our lives. And I thank Erly for bringing that to my attention. Hope you will find some meaning to tonight\\u2019s discussion as much as I do. @inibukandiskusi