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Unlike most of the natural world, birds are quite easy to enjoy with a visual impairment because, well, they can be rather noisy. Martin and Jackie Brown invited us into their garden and share some of their enthusiasms for gardening and, you guessed it, birds. Natalie Doig also joins us. Natalie is partially sighted and enjoys taking photographs of birds and other wildlife, because it allows her to zoom in and discover details she wasn't aware of before. She tells us about her techniques and shares her top tips.

We also review some bird identification apps that can be downloaded onto your smartphone.

Presenter: Peter White\\nProducer: Beth Hemmings\\nProduction Coordinator: Liz Poole \\n \\nWebsite image description: Two people photographing birds perched on their hands. On either side of the image, there are two large camera lenses. The birds are brightly coloured: orange, yellow, blue and black. One of the birds has its wings stretched out, while the other is perched with its beak slightly open.