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I can\\u2019t wait for you to meet Dr. Ricky L. Jones, chair of the Pan African Studies department at the University of Louisville, Kentucky - one of the oldest in the country, nearing fifty years in existence. In a time where anything related to Black history is being attacked as CRT, you gotta know this is an especially tough time for him and his department.\\xa0

Like my discussion with Elizabeth Leiba, our conversation took twists and turns as we discussed everything from why his current state of Kentucky is DNV (as in do not visit), the obstacles he faces trying to keep Black faces and Black voices at the university, why he believes all Black folks should go to college, and his theory that white people are Black people\\u2019s children.\\xa0

We had a great time, and even had a WHOLE other discussion as we tried to wrap up with his definitions of Blackness and his Black heroes. He delivers the toughest ideas with a little bit of bless your heart, and y\\u2019all know what that phrase means. I hope you learn, challenge yourself, and grow listening to his VERY interesting thoughts and views. Let's go!